John’s K 7 Update

Hi all,

The fuselage and the tail end have been put on one side now for some weeks  while I began construction of the wings. As with the rest of the kit there are many laser cut parts including false ply LE, all ribs, main spar web ( the 1mm ply sheet glued between top and bottom 1/2 x 1/4 spruce spars) and other ply webs needed around the route section. Tabs as shown are part of the ribs and false LE to allow these parts to sit on your board at the correct attitude, they are cut off later…very clever, makes life much easier. The first wing took a bit of thought and even then I left out a doubler around the joiner…Doh! Too late now. The first job is to make the bottom spar which because of its length needs 2 joints splicing and tapered to 1/4” at the tip. This is then glued to the spar web which the ribs just slot over, grooves pre cut, The top spar is then glued on, nearly done, that’ll be a no then! Still lots of parts to fit and glue. A model this big hoovers up a lorra lorra glue.  I have left the aileron attached to save damage for now. The trailing edge construction of 0.4 ply top and bottom with balsa in between is simple enough but I am in thoughts about how to go about building a strong attachment to the wing ribs which also follows the wing section.

As you can see the second wing, which I hope is the opposite and mirror image of the first is well under way with the first hanging above me for reference. There was no plan for the second wing so by pushing a pin through the plan, thanks Joe, I have marked the key outlines on the back of the plan and also laid the first wing on top upside down to double check dimensions. Because the laser cut parts are designed to fit together you can’t get them in the wrong place, well mostly. The K7s wings are angled forwards so I will make a special effort to get the angle of the route rib for fwd sweep and dihedral the same as wing one. Each wing is 2.7mtrs long ( I have measured up the Honda and they just fit) so it will not need to be much out to make a big difference at the tip. Watch this space! Next time I hope to show you the assembled framework, however there are still servos to install in the wing for brakes and ailerons and the canopy to make.  Maiden scheduled for late Spring…famous last words!

All the best and trust everyone is coping with this awful situation

John.

Pre Lockdown Fly at L.H

Although the breeze was from the North East and unfriendly for gliders, it was good to get out and enjoy the really calm and clear air this morning. I decided to get out the thermal clothing and take my Riot up for a few circuits and try out my new Runcam2 camera for some area clips. Sidmouth Martin had made an early start but had not found any lift for his glider (sorry Martin, I cant remember the model name).  Exeter Bob arrived with his Vintage Models – Balsa Basics Cub for a maiden flight that went very well and I think the aerobatics were intentional. My Riot bumbled around the sky and recorded some aerial clips but I must remember which side the camera is pointing when I fly past our group. Duh!

Club Newsletter

Welcome to our first newsletter for a very long time. We thought that with winter looming and opportunities looking limited to meet up inside or out for a while that a Newsletter would help to keep everyone in touch. As John said in his covering email, the frequency of  issuing future newsletters will depend mainly on having something to report. We have had a couple of suggestions already, including highlights from our Facebook page, for a subsequent edition, so if anyone has any ideas or has anything to report from the building board, just drop Robert or John an email.

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David’s DR 420 test flights

By today’s standards my new ‘DR420’ is a blast from the past – balsa and ply, with spruce spars, full length flaperons, and mechanical mixing. She’s also the first model aircraft I’ve designed in over 40 years!

 

Maiden – test flights 1 & 2 – Black Hill

Her ‘maiden’ consisted of two flat field test glides and two 40 min test fights in a gusty 6-12 mph:

I didn’t touch the flap function for the first 20 mins just used aileron and elevator and struggled to get above 30-40 feet in less than ideal conditions. Applied about 30% down flap and she was 80 feet up quite quickly.

Stalling straight showed no tendency to drop a wing and recoveries were easy and with little loss of height. She did sometimes drop a wing in turns but usually not. I couldn’t establish exactly why but suspect that variations in wind speed caused the inconsistency. Mostly she flew pretty well for a first attempt. I found that:

  1. Flap function made more difference to airspeed than altitude and no constant elevator input was needed. With full up flap she does come down gradually but gains considerable energy. At full down flap she flies close to stall speed but with careful handling is still well behaved. 25-35% down flap was best for climbing.
  2. The aileron response is disappointingly slow even at high airspeed. Increasing aileron throw a bit made little difference. I couldn’t roll her past about 80 degrees no matter what I did and even that took ages and height was lost. I expected to be able to do quick 90 degree banks and turns using up elevator but she was having none of it. Most turns were fairly close to flat.
  3. When I flew her rudder/elevator the flight characteristics were almost identical (even with very little dihedral).
  4. Remarkably, flap position made no difference to aileron authority and no difference to the likelihood of dropping a wing. That’s good.
  5. She looked majestic in flight and sounded great in passing.

Next Day – test flights 3 & 4 – Chinkwell Tor

Beforehand – I increased and aileron throw AND the up-flap throw but decreased the down flap (bearing in mind that these are full length flaperons not separate control surfaces). Conditions were far better, a much steeper slope with a much stronger wind than yesterday gusting 7-17mph at eye level .

In these conditions she flew like a different bird possibly because of the overall higher airspeed but the increased aileron throw was obviously making a huge difference. Mostly I just tested her responses and watched for tip stalls:

1) Aileron response was good at a wide variety of airspeeds and was not affected by up or down flap input. She still won’t do a complete roll but did pretty fast 80 degree banked turns (both into wind and downwind) and half rolls from inverted were no problem. She even did a half-decent Cuban 8.

2) Up flap (now about 30 degrees) response was much stronger and looked identical to down elevator input (it had zero braking effect – quite the opposite!). It worked brilliantly when more penetration was needed but for bringing her down I guess the next thing to try is up flap and up elevator at the same time(???).

3) No sign of tip-stalling in any sort of turn or at any groundspeed (but probably the airspeed was constantly higher than yesterday).

4) Rudder response is great. She can be flown rudder/elevator and does great stall turns.

She really was a great pleasure to fly in these conditions. To anyone reading this who has not had a go at ‘designing your own’ I would say have a go.

With traditional spruce spars, her thin wings are pretty flexible and at speed she literally ‘wriggled’ her way though strong gusts – like a falcon rousing her feathers in flight – quite something to watch. In recoveries from failed manoeuvres I pulled far more G than intended which greatly increased my faith in the light balsa wing structure.

I hope to further improve the aileron response by increasing the flaperon differential (reduce the amount of down aileron). Mind you, if it doesn’t work I’m still a happy chappie. If I’d wanted an out-and-out aerobatic glider I would have designed her differently.

I guess that’ll be my next project.

Aero-Tow Events rescheduled

From John H.

Hi Everybody, here is a forwarded message from Rob Oats of the Okehampton Model Flying Club. It would seem the best option as suggested, is to just hold just one event at the most suitable venue Sunday the 11th Oct.

Good Morning Everyone,
Storm Alex has scuppered our plans for the aerotow at 18 Acre this
Sunday. We have next Sunday as the reserve, however this clashes with
the aerotow at Little Haldon. If the weather conditions favour Little
Haldon we will cancel. If weather conditions mean an aerotow in Exbourne
is more favourable than Little Haldon then we will consider holding the
event in Exbourne.

Regards,
Rob

1/3 scale K7 Build update from John

The K7 continues to grow slowly and the bags of laser cut parts are starting to diminish. After doing all I could to the fuselage I started on the tail end. The fin is integral to the fuselage so a rudder was next and fairly straightforward of balsa and 0.4. ply. A double horn was made from G10 2mm fibre board; very hard but files well. The closed loop cables will connect to this.

Lots of laser cut parts went together to construct the tail plane and this was covered in 0.4 ply as is the fin, all very strong but getting heavy! Elevators x 2 of built up structure are driven by 2 servos in the tail plane.

I made a mistake with the hinging and got the hinge line in the incorrect axis but hope to address this later.

As it is quite thick at the hinge line and the elevator needs to swivel rather than just move up and down.

I have now begun the first wing, will be in touch! (Robert: I look forward to seeing more pics of this stage John)

If anyone is subscribed to Scale Soaring UK, more pics of John build can be found. Click here –  UKJilles Smits 1/3 K7 Build

Now for Something Different

Stuart Chambers recently sent in a photo of this build by his No. 1 son. Does anyone recognise it? (of course Stuart knows the answer) Feel free to post your answer comment here or if more convenient over on our Facebook page.

Dartmoor National Park Bylaw on powered flight

We have had a couple of enquiries lately about whether powered flight is allowed on Dartmoor. The simple answer is No. As there may be visitors to our area intending to fly on Dartmoor and use our website to search out the best sites to soar, John asked for a statement to be added to our home page to reinforce our constitution and the advice given in our Dartmoor site guide.

“It is worth reminding club members and others visiting Dartmoor to fly RC that whilst non-powered flight is allowed, any form of powered flight whether electric or combustion is banned by the Nation Park Bylaws. Due to this importance this bylaw it is written into our constitution and  included into our guide on flying on Dartmoor.”

Soaring at Black Hill

Thanks to John for organising a ‘back to our roots’ slope soaring day at Black Hill last Sunday. There was a good turn out and we can see from the photos and video clips posted over on our Facebook group that members had a great time and demonstrated their skills of soaring without any power aids. Stuart Chambers has sent in some photos. Check these out on our Gallery page and the launch photo chosen to head up our home page. Thanks Stuart.

John’s K7 build update

An an update on Johns 1/3 scale K7 build:

Progess on the K7 has been up and down yet quite a few more hours put in. The fin is virtually complete and covered in .4 ply and built integral to the fuz so nice and strong.

I have also finished the rudder which will be operated by closed loop and hinged with Robart Hinges. What has been apparent is the abundance of laser cut parts supplied with this short kit, comparatively little stock wood needed so far, and in the majority of cases they fit firmly together like a jigsaw. I have built nothing on the plan as the laser cut parts dictate positioning….brilliant so far!

Also nearing completion are the 2 elevators, again lots of precut parts. These will be driven by 2 wing servos in the tailplane, never be down that route before. Again the tailplane parts include a ply servo tray especially for this. As this build is so large things are made easier by big pieces that do not break in your hand and seeing what you are doing with older eyes much better. Onwards.